What do you mean, Echon, too much non-music?

Sounds effects and no melodies. I may be thinking of a different album, though.

I think they manage a good balance between drones & hisses & noises versus melodies & other musical stuff, but it's a matter of taste. They're still an industrial band, how much kraut, prog & black metal they throw in there.

Love the album, been listening to it since yesterday. According to discogs it was first released in 2008 on tape, and then re-released on vinyl in 2010? I agree about the WHEN comparison, both early and You Are Silent-era. I also hear some Bogus Blimp in the distant, floating organ and the more ambient parts.

About non-music, well... every time someone says an album contains non-music, we should translate it to "it contains music that I, personally, can't hear as music, because I am not able to". There is no such thing as non-music, on an album of music - or is it just me? It's like saying there is some non-food in the meal that I am eating. Isn't it contradictory?

They've done a couple of releases that have been rereleased - their first LP from 2008, which is untitled, was rereleased on tape in 2009, but the new lp Begraven Mot Norr has only been released this year (http://www.discogs.com/%C3%84ttestupa-B ... se/2283187) - the covers are practically similar all the time... You should try to hear the track from the Utmarken 10" (http://www.discogs.com/Various-Utmarken/release/1857308) - it's awesome.

Concerning non-music/non-food... Just like you can eat feces or shards of glass doesn't mean that it is food, but when consumed it becomes food; in my point of view it's analogous to sounds - particular sounds aren't music until you listen to them as music (even more when someone arranges them - even if it's only a machine recorded unedited to a track like VIVENZA, or plain birdsong). If pieces of cloth isn't food to you, it isn't (but it is for a moth or crazy person / non-conformist libertine). Or crackling static hums as music. Etc.


No wait here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o_OPp_DeYM

But I do think that there's room for a non-critical use of the term "non-music" when describing a band like ÄTTESTUPA, who clearly juxtaposes tone, harmony and rhythm with shapeless buzzing and whining sounds - it's part of the music so it is music, but still the sounds are traditionally non-musical. So... yeah. Great album either way, & I'm stoked to catching them on tour in Gothenburg in September.

Olivier: if you're interested in more Swedish Industrial mayhem from this year, check out IRM - Order4. One of the best bands from here. 2010 is a great year for Swedish industrial; bigger names releasing high quality stuff, new names of very high quality popping up... Maybe even an LP release from yours truly... nice time to be alive!

Thanks for the suggestions I will try to find it! And let us know when your LP will come out, that would be kult & kool to hear your stuff at night.

I realise that all music is a combination of sounds and who is to decide whether some sounds are music or not? What I mean when using this term is that I cannot hear any melody, rythm or even a single note.

THE BODY - All The Waters on the Earth Shall Turn to Blood

Has anyone heard the new VON-related releases? VON VENIEN has released an EP with three versions of the same song (the ordinary version, an instrumental and an a capella version...), VON has released an EP with three old tracks that might have been rerecorded plus a DVD with two old shows, and VON GOAT have released a full-length through Nuclear War Now called"Septic Illumination" (with Wrest of LEVIATHAN on drums!). I feel... sceptical. All this sudden commotion, accounts of the Von Music Group on Twitter, Facebook, Reverbnation... call me conservative, but what the bleeding hell is EVIL in promoting yourself like that?

Heard the new DRUDKH. They've gone beardy. Pretty boring. Too much ISIS/similar inspiration. Will probably appeal to people deeply into the Zeitgeister band, got some feeling of those projects in it. And they've made it perfectly clear that they are, once and for all, not national socialists. Me, I prefer the track Sunwheel from Autumn Aurora, when they only wanted to sound like a modern day BURZUM.

That's why I don't even listen to "new" albums by such bands. I guess DRUDKH have said it all with their acoustic folk album. It's like an unwritten law that some bands get beardy after becoming "more mature" and changing towards bigger labels. The early albums are fine autumnal music nevertheless.

Uh, just curious; how did they "make it clear once and for all"?

They were open-minded enough to start listening to American "smart" bands as everyone else has been doing for 10 years =D

No seriously, I was referring to statements & disclaimers on their myspace - http://www.myspace.com/drudkhofficial - about their utterly non-political stance & their complete uninterest to affiliate with NSBM bands ("It is not our policy to support racism or political extremism"). Turning to the acceptable metal mainstream, that is. Haven't read their lyrics so I have no idea as to what they may or may not have insinuated in the past.

It´s told Drudkh members are well linked with Ukraine ns scene (which ukraine bm band is not?)... Blood in our Wells was dedicated to memory of Bandera, who was ukraine nacionalist and separationist (well known for his brutal guerilla bands), who is now official ukr. national hero. Members also apeared in Hate Forrest, legendary nsbm (but also high quality) band.

For me, divorcing with ns means nothing. It can´t be that simple, band just probly try to go different way than Nokturnal Mortum or Temnozor with the less suspect content. I don´t know, but what I know for sure, I don´t like their later records.