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GIANA SISTERS!

hey just to know...
how do you all plan to collabarte...

you need a common platform :

my suggestions :

platform - cakewalk / sonar

format - wave files (high-cd quality)

method - define tempo (bpm) and melodic scale or root chord structures

any takers

btw i play rhthym and lead guiatrs, bass, programmed drums, wierd synths (more cyber/electrnica style) and growled and clean gothic vox...i even roll big ass doobies for the rest of the musicians

I'm not too good at sound-engineering, but is there a kind of common filetype more programs can use? Then we could just start it somewhere and send the file around, everyone just adding stuff? Is that a possible thing to do? We could maybe do more tracks, so everyone gets to do the work they desires? Am i totally lost or could it work? And then someone just gives it some mixing in the end.
Dunno if this could work. Might do with some planning/writing and none being too desperate to be "in the front".
Possible?

Actually there's no compatibility between different software synthesizers (e.g. Cubase, ProTools, Sonar, Samplitude, Logic etc.). The only thing you can do is to mixdown tracks as .wav-Files and then import these .wav-Files. Those Files can be imported into each kind of synthesizer.

So there are 2 possibilities:

1. people record their lines as .wav-Files in their preferred sequencer. Somebody has to coordinate everything, make actual mixdowns regularly so everybody has a file of the current state of the song. This is very complicated

2. All agree on a very cheap sequencer that everybody can afford, e.g. REAPER (freeware), SAMPLITUDE SE or an older version of MACKIE TRACKTION.

hmm yeah I think it's best to save things in the particular program's project file type, rather than having 1 person put all the wav files together. I have some version of Cakewalk and some program called Session. I guess Reaper looks nice for shareware.

if everyone had cakewalk we could send the incomplete "song" using cakewalk bundles....

i will be checking out reaper today..if its free...then

anyways, at present the wave seems best.. as i said previously what needs define the minimum parameters :

1 - tempo
2 - scale / chord structure
3 - a small narrative of what the idea constitutes

and what will "seed / start / initiate " the song...bass line / guitar chords / keyboard seq. etc ?

there are some ideas...

since we have a small army of enthisiatic musicians we should start at least 3 projects (each one catering to a certain aspect of avangarde metal based on majority interest), with a ''team'' responisble for each collaberation.
so whadya 'll think ?

Ok, I have a pretty "normal" rifflike thing, so I'll try to record the bass soon (in the next 5 days I hope) and maybe I'll just make a sketch of the guitars...I have it in my head as a wierd thing...so I hope it will turn out good....I usualy use Adobe audition for recording...or sound forge!

So you'll give us...what? A .wav file?

Yeah lets get the ball rolling.........

riff in wave format and tempo pls..

the tempo is important so we can see what pace the originator wanted...

if possible the sequence of notes used too

lets go......

Yeah, let`s get rollin`! Mind, I`ll programm drums first until I get the opportunity to record them properly. I have the possibility here but I will do that only if everything else stands for sure, it is quite a piece of work to do that and I don\t want to do it over and over again. Ah, and please, as stated above, give me tempi and structure of the songs in a seperate .txt file. If any guitar player has something special in mind for drums on a particular part, feel free to tell me.

Hmm.. since there are so many on bass, can i do some wacky vocals instead 'till my lute's complete?

Actually it exists - well it's not as good as a "clean" project file, but you guys can export it in OMF !!

hey someone map out a song developement route, example :

ulv (gtr riff) ---> tentakel (drum programming) ----> villrosen (bass) --->falk (synths) ---> chrystof (vox) ----> sulieman (samples)--> etc on and on...

like i said if we have two to three routes mapped out...each can be started seperately and worked on in parallel, in the end we will have at least three amazing songs/soundscapes...

there can even be an eventual AGM cd, as in produced by the collabarators on this site (hey chrystof....)

so someone take some resposibilty for developing song routes........

or someone at least upload a wav file of a riff to zshare or mediafire or somthing...zipped files are awlays preferred

This sounds actually very similar to the way the band Phish would create some of their improvisations -

One guy would litereally record something for 5 seconds, the next would add something, and the next, and so on...

perhaps an upload/download location should be created, like at Soundclick or similar place?

Someone should post a BPM tempo and bass line w/chord progression text file - then someone add to this, and so on - or everyone could take the basic structure and create something comepletely different.

I have some kind of "direction proposition" : maybe the easier way (to the archives ) is to make some main base tracks and then everybody interested add their stuff. Like : drummers or guitarists or whatever post something like a complete song (patterns or riffs) structure, with tempo etc... Then when the "bases lenght" reaches something like 50 minutes, the next step is organizing the bases to make a "real album progression". Then time comes to place the different musicians and then record bass, vocals, synths, blahblahblah. Then you have a demo ; then we can record a "final version".

I think it could be the best solutions to organize something as big as this AGM.com big band to something coherent or it will turn into a bloody mess ;o) Well the final stuff could be a bloody mess... but a structured bloody mess hehehe !